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Location:

Mapleton,UT,USA

Member Since:

Aug 22, 2012

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Local Elite

Running Accomplishments:

1:08:17 Drop 13 Half 2015

2:41:14 St George Marathon 2012

17:28 5k Rex Lee 2015 (but sub 16 inside some of my halves, downhill doesn't count)

Short-Term Running Goals:

2013 Races

2014 Races

2015 Races!

1/3 Snowman Half - 1:23:14 1st

Total Domination

3/7 Rex Lee Cancer 5k - 16:53 7th (5k PR)

Masters Domination

3/21 Running of the Leopards - 16:48 13th

AG Domination

4/11 Timp Shadow - 21:28 5th (1k PR)

Masters Domination

4/18 Salt Lake Half Marathon - 1:20:56 18th

AG Domination

5/2 Provo City Half Marathon - 1:16:12 4th

Masters Domination

5/9 - Dino Half - 1:15:20 1st (CR)

Course Domination

5/30 Timp Trail Half - 1:50 1st

Total Domination

6/6 Art City 5K - 17:20 13th

AG Domination

6/13 Drop 13 - 1:08:17 (PR) (CR)

Course Domination

Long-Term Running Goals:

17:00 5k

1:08 downhill half [done]

34:30 10k

Never get old

Personal:

Married, three kids, have a problem with going out too fast in races but it's too fun to quit

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OK, so I tried the downhill threshold workout today. I did it on the Hobbler Half course, just to start getting a good benchmark. Last year I got 1:16:45 for 1100 down vs this year's Provo 1:15:19 with 870 down, so I figure I have about 7 seconds per mile fitness gain over those 10 months. I haven't recovered completely from the Provo, but no muscle soreness today - knock about 8 per mile off. There's nobody racing with me, so knock another 6 or so off. Last year's first three miles were 5:19,35,42 with an average pace of 5:51 so if I can hold an average pace of 5:26 with as little variance as possible then it's good. The 3 miles in question is mostly down with a few tenths of nasty up scattered randomly throughout, one in each mile.

The first mile I immediately dropped to a 4:35, which I usually do in the first 2 tenths of a race, and ended with a 5:21. The next two were 5:34 and 5:37 but the third wasn't quite as bad as I thought it would be - I almost counted it as threshold instead of VO2 max. Really it was just the end that was somewhat difficult. I think there might be something to Sasha's mental block thing. I almost tried another two mile down after the run back to the car, but it was too late and I wanted to start slow. Next time I will step up the intensity for miles 2 and 3 and try to make them level with mile 1.

Actually, a descent review shows that mile 1 drops 130, but miles 2 and 3 drop 70, so that was a pretty good job of keeping the intensity level. I'll still try to step it up a bit, but I think I only need 4 seconds or so on the second two to get a flat output.

Comments
From Bam on Tue, May 07, 2013 at 08:46:49 from 89.126.28.24

Nicely done Dave.

From Dave Taylor on Tue, May 07, 2013 at 08:51:27 from 63.255.191.163

Thanks, now the question is if I can do a 2x. Not yet I think :)

From Sasha Pachev on Sat, May 11, 2013 at 17:50:54 from 72.250.218.114

Dave - if you are willing to do this in the Provo Canyon, I can pace you. Let me know what your schedule is like and we can come up with something.

From Dave Taylor on Sat, May 11, 2013 at 22:00:49 from 174.23.75.125

I would totally do this in Provo Canyon and very much enjoy having you as a pacer, thanks. The next time I was planning to do it was the Tuesday after Timp Trail Half,but after the positive results of today I would also do it this coming Tuesday or even tomorrow. Or possibly Wednesday if it's a 1x. Or I could fold it into a Saturday long run 2 weeks from today. What time of day?

From Sasha Pachev on Sat, May 11, 2013 at 22:14:16 from 72.250.218.114

What time can you go on Tuesday? We usually start from my house (395 S Palisade Dr in Orem) at 7:30 AM. We can go earlier but not later.

From Dave Taylor on Sat, May 11, 2013 at 22:46:51 from 174.23.74.5

As early as you can, but no earlier than 5:45.

From Sasha Pachev on Sat, May 11, 2013 at 23:12:23 from 72.250.218.114

Does 6:30 work?

From Dave Taylor on Sun, May 12, 2013 at 07:53:02 from 174.23.74.5

Perfect, see you then

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